Anybody interested in a Languages-hosted-in-Rust WG?

[pliniker]

I’m in agreement with using GH and Gitter. I don’t love any chat solution but Gitter gets my vote overall.

So… Yes it would be ideal to be incorporated into the rust-lang-nursery org. I don’t know who on the core teams we talk to about approval?..

@aturon, @steveklabnik, @carols10cents, @skade et al, it looks like there are a handful of us interested in forming a lang-runtimes-in-rust WG. Does this sound like an appropriate project to live under the nursery umbrella?

[skade]

Hi,

I’ve got a pretty liberal view on these things: if there’s a group of people that want to document and work on a subject related to practices around Rust, form a group.

In general, I find it easier to not have these things under the nursery umbrella (mainly because of the administrative overhead), though. For example, Rust community is not run on rust-lang or the nursery, because that means we can freely assign members, start projects, etc, without involving the rust-lang organisation.

Best, Florian

[pliniker]

I’m quite sympathetic to the admin-overhead point that @skade makes.

Further in favor of having our own GitHub organization, we could grow with less friction and clutter - there are already 56 repos in rust-lang-nursery.

I think it possible that a rust-hosted-langs organization (or whatever it might be called) could become a nursery of sorts itself. That is my hope, in fact.

Anybody is welcome to make a better case for being incorporated into rust-lang-nursery, or bikeshed over GitHub organization names!

[yorickpeterse]

Anybody is welcome to make a better case for being incorporated into rust-lang-nursery, or bikeshed over GitHub organization names!

In case of a separate organisation I’d just call it “Rust Languages Working Group” or something along those lines. It may be a tad verbose though.

[CAD97]

Ooh, completely trivial bikeshed I can get behind!

• rust-lang-lang
• rust-meta-lang
• rust-host-lang
• rust-compiler-tools
• rust-dsl
  • -wg
  • -tools
  • -host

I’ve been tinkering with a toy language implementation in Rust, so I’ll be tracking any work here, and share what I do which is sharable. I just put simple-interner on crates.io, and having been reintroduced to the concept of lexer modes, may end up making a simple modal lexer generator which works on simple regexes eventually.

[bjz]

It depends on whether this WG is meant to be more broadly about implementing languages in Rust, or about implementing language runtimes in Rust. I originally mis-read the title of this post as being about the former (but am still interested in the latter).

[pliniker]

@bjz fair question. My initial interest is in exploring runtimes, as I’m interested in working toward a foundation on which to make it easier to implement whole languages in Rust. I’d like to see a working group focused on this, since the point of a WG is to advance something specific.

If we have our own GH organization, that WG could be just one piece of a broader set of resources where anybody who is creating a language in Rust for any reason, with any level of experience, can communicate - share ideas, ask questions and collaborate as they wish. (I’d love to invite folk who’ve already implemented something to contribute summaries and in-depth technical articles on their implementations, for example.)

Here are my preferences:

• organization short name: rust-hosted-langs
• organization long name: Languages Hosted in Rust
• runtimes working group repo: runtimes-WG plus associated Gitter channel

[pliniker]

@Marwes, @murarth, @jorendorff, @bvssvni, @fitzgen, @jntrnr - as folk who’ve already implemented something in this space, would any of you be interested in a languages/runtimes-in-Rust group?

[murarth]

Sure. Count me in.

I’m seeing some interesting ideas here and I’d be happy to contribute my ideas and experiences.

[Marwes]

I’d be interested in something like this in any case.

[pliniker]

I’ve created

• https://github.com/rust-hosted-langs
• https://gitter.im/rust-hosted-langs/runtimes-WG

which hopefully will shape up into something productive. It’s a bit of a blank slate at the moment.

[system]

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